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david- 10-08-2007
Both are listed in the dictionary as meaning "strip; unsew; rip open; rip up dismantle; take apart demolish".

uZandile tells me that -qhaqha is correct in fact she translates it as "unscrew", however this is not what -chacha means says she

Scholars Zulu Dictionary gives -chacha as meaning "be clear; be evident", rather similar to -caca.

I would suggest that the entry for -chacha is amended to be as -caca, not as -qhaqha

regards Baba


Sibusiso Mbokazi- 10-17-2007
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Mshengu- 10-18-2007
QUOTE (david @ October 08, 2007 04:16 pm)
Both are listed in the dictionary as meaning "strip; unsew; rip open; rip up dismantle; take apart demolish".

uZandile tells me that -qhaqha is correct in fact she translates it as "unscrew", however this is not what -chacha means says she

Scholars Zulu Dictionary gives -chacha as meaning "be clear; be evident", rather similar to -caca.

I would suggest that the entry for -chacha is amended to be as -caca, not as -qhaqha

regards Baba

Caca > Be clear: kuyacaca ukuthi usuthi.
Caca > To climb onto: uSipho ucaca odongeni.

qaqa > Take apart: qaqa lelifindo.
i-qaqa > The skunk: iqaqa alizizwa ukunuka.


David, I would like to know which author of the dictionery used by Zandile. The spelling might have been incorrect but this is true.

[/QUOTE]uZandile tells me that -qhaqha is correct in fact she translates it as "unscrew", however this is not what -chacha means says she

Scholars Zulu Dictionary gives -chacha as meaning "be clear; be evident", rather similar to -caca.

I would suggest that the entry for -chacha is amended to be as -caca, not as -qhaqha[QUOTE]



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david- 10-18-2007
Sawubona Mshengu

No, Zandile does not use a dictionary. Zulu is her first language and she is usually correct I have found.

To be honest this qhaqha thing has me very confused now. I'm going to have a lie down tongue.gif

Sibusiso Mbokazi- 10-18-2007
its more of a regional issue than anything else, don't lie down we need here D.

Mshengu- 10-18-2007
Zulu is also my first language. Where did she do her matric or where is she originally from? DavidSomething tells the two of you have something incommon tongue.gif tongue.gif

I would like to challenge her source and I will give reference to my meaning if I have to. There is no word in Zulu that is spelt as QHAQHA. You can only use "QHA" OR "CHA" oyisakhi sokuphika NOT "QHAQHA OR CHACHA...

Example: Cha, angiyazi lento oyishoyo or Qha, angiyazi lento oyishoyo

Other meanings
Caca > Be clear: kuyacaca ukuthi usuthi.
Caca > To climb onto: uSipho ucaca odongeni.

qaqa > Take apart: qaqa lelifindo.
i-qaqa > The skunk: iqaqa alizizwa ukunuka.

Regions may differ in using particular terms BUT the PRINCIPLES of Zulu are still the same.

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david- 10-18-2007
QUOTE (Mshengu @ October 18, 2007 02:27 pm)
DavidSomething tells the two of you have something incommon tongue.gif tongue.gif

I would like to challenge her source and I will give reference to my meaning if I have to. There is no word in Zulu that is spelt as QHAQHA. You can only use "QHA" OR "CHA" oyisakhi sokuphika NOT "QHAQHA OR CHACHA...

OK I had a lie down biggrin.gif

Now Zandile has let me down this time, today she says ukuqaqa is the spelling sad.gif

So you are right, ngiyabonga

Yes we have a thing in common. She is my wife, she is the most beautiful Zulu woman from PMB KwaZulu-Natal

Phew perhaps we can put this one to bed

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Mshengu- 10-19-2007
"Yes we have a thing in common. She is my wife, she is the most beautiful Zulu woman from PMB KwaZulu-Natal"

Yoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif This is worse than ubuthakathi.

I'm so impressed with myself. You know, I always get goose bumbs when I tell my most gorgeous wife IN THE WORLD about things regarding particilar people or about my 6th sense. Mhhhh!!! She is from uMlazi and I am from PMB eMbali stage2.

I'm glad we all now all on the same page. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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david- 10-19-2007
QUOTE (Mshengu @ October 19, 2007 07:50 am)
I'm so impressed with myself. You know, I always get goose bumbs when I tell my most gorgeous wife IN THE WORLD about things regarding particilar people or about my 6th sense. Mhhhh!!! She is from uMlazi and I am from PMB eMbali stage2.

Hawu!!! She is from Imbali unit 3. Sihlale eMbali when we first arrived here in SA, for two months. You know Imbalenhle clinic ? I am always driving up and down Slangspruit to see my in laws.

Nihlalaphi manje?

Mshengu- 10-19-2007
So I should be calling you Mkhaya.

Well as you may well know Imbali is very small compared to other black township in South Africa. I know where Imbali Clinic, it's about less than 5min walk from Mehlokazulu High School.

We are in Gauteng now. We relocated in 1991. And where are you originally from? biggrin.gif

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david- 10-19-2007
QUOTE (Mshengu @ October 19, 2007 02:16 pm)
So I should be calling you Mkhaya.

Ngiyabonga that is very nice to hear from you

Oh yes Imbali is OK these days, apart from the botched attempt to dynamite the ATM a few months ago. But anyway it was the middle of the night so we should be in bed

Yes those other locations are so big I know people from KwaMashu , Umlazi of course

Mina I was born in the east side of London England. But now I am adopting KZN

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Shame you left Imbali but in those days things were horrific, Zandile has told me some stories, it made my blood run cold

Let us know when you travel down the N3 next time, perhaps we can hook up

khonze Baba David



PS Sorry Carsten, we are abusing the wrong forum section, you know since I came here these things no longer seem important. ohmy.gif

Mshengu- 10-19-2007
Your Zulu is not bad at all Mkhaya biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

My first name is Sandile. Zandile is so right about those storries. And those were the days we don't want to re-live.

N3 has abused me for so many years. I now prefer to fly because it is even more affordable to fly from JHB - Dbn for as little as R200 return ticket. I will let you guys know though.

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Mshengu- 10-19-2007
QUOTE (Mshengu @ October 19, 2007 02:29 pm)
Your Zulu is not bad at all Mkhaya biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

My first name is Sandile. Zandile is so right about those storries. And those were the days we don't want to re-live.

N3 has abused me for so many years. I now prefer to fly because it is even more affordable to fly from JHB - Dbn for as little as R200 return ticket. I will let you guys know though.

Ngxabalala
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Uyazi bengise Slough and Meidenheard and Windsor last week... I wish bengazi ngaleforam last week tongue.gif tongue.gif

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